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within the republican party, and once that 113th convenes the president can institute obama tax cuts, and sort of dare the republican party not to vote for, you know, a new round of obama tax cuts. politically the president holds those but it's more important than that. the american people, after looking at options presented to them reclearly with a return of president obama to the white house, or initiating mitt romney presidency, chose a return of president obama to the white house and therefore gave him a very clear mandate to hold the line on the question of entitlements there when it comes to talking about entitlements, or earned benefits as progressives like to refer to it, what is the way that the president and those on the left can look and also appear to the right to be willing to compromise? what can they put on the table, if anything? >> well, i just don't think that any of us think that it is a reasonable idea to over the course of the next week and a half, over the course of the holiday season, for the president and this congress, which is a lame duck congress, to engage
. but indication today that president obama is a little bit more flexible on the tax hike for the rich, at least than we thought, but he still want to doe i have tdestroy you rich pe, kidding, he doesn't toupee more but not clinton era more. 38%, that is potentially a significant development, it could be a deal maker, he is why, president says he -- republicans to give in on having rich pay more taxes, republicans could say as least as not as much more. in a sense, it splits the tax revenue difference. there is still a long way from the deal. but clearly sign yet that this president, who has been attacked for not being flexible on spending cuts, by not cutting anybody. what to make of it? tom fanning. and former bush front economic director todd. erin, what are we to make of this? do you get a sent from this, that this is the making of a middle ground deal? >> i think it is. i was up on capitol hill today. john boehner had a press conference followed one by senate democratic leaders, they were both chest thumping saying neither side of getting closer, but privately they are, republicans know tha
in washington? >>> president obama presses the case for tax hikes on the rich, and the tax cut extension for the middle class, now. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> but republicans aren't budging, accusing the president of avoiding tough choices on spending and wasting time in the effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> it's not a serious proposal. and so right now, we're almost nowhere. >> will there be a deal by the end of the year? and what are the consequences for the economy if there isn't one? we'll ask the president's lead budget negotiator, treasury secretary tim geithner. >>> then the view from capitol hill. are democrats as divided over cutting medicare as republicans are over tax increases? with us, two voices calling for compromise. republican senator bob corker of tennessee and democratic senator claire mccaskill of missouri. >>> finally, our special economic roundtable. as both sides battle over the nation's fiscal health, what can we expect from the economy in a second obama term? w
obama and really american people don't want to see middle class americans pay additional 2000 in taxes n which is what will happen in addition to cuts to programs . we want to cut and the american people want to see cut. there is it a few things. first more americans would blame the republicans and not president obama if we went off of the fiscal cliff. that is a motivation. >> brian: yeah. >> gretchen: ron, why do they feel that way? >> brian:ip totally agree with you. looking at polls and say republicans will get blamed and so why not runuss off of the cliff. >> republicans should have their own plan. the majority of americans in exit polls have said we should balance and ask the wealthiest to pay more. >> gretchen: wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. ron. that's not true. nothing is going to be balanced with talks that i heard about. >> brian: absolutely not. >> the only pending cuts is for war spending and stan tan and iraq. >> that is six billion in health care. >> we need more to save our generation and we shouldn't tax people give our generation jobs. can i please talk about how our gen
' position is they want to raise taxes in this, and they want to have a tax deal. if you take president obama's tax increases, $82 billion a year. that doesn't even run -- that barely runs the post office for a year, much less the federal government. so there's not enough money there. you have to deal with into it with elements if you ever want to get this under control. simon keeps saying that the democrats are not intransgem. this is a letter signed by 33 senate democrats saying no changes to social security at all, ever, under any deal. megyn: even future. >> future. and year-end future. the democrats are absolutely intransigent on entitlements, this is what they're secretly saying to their supporters, and that's why they're going to go off the cliff. megyn: simon raises points about the president's budget and proposed spending cuts, but we have not had a budget out of the democrat-controlled senate in more than three years now. he wasn't able to get a vote -- >> i bet the democrats vote that one down too, like the last one. megyn: we'll see what happens. we're only in december. thanks, gu
to break rank, saying he could support president obama's tax proposal. coburn joins a growing chorus of republicans from outside the house of representatives, urging house leadership to clear the way for a broad deal that would include tax increases on the wealthy. however, as we mentioned, according to "the new york times," speaker boehner is enjoying broad support from within his own caucus. and yesterday boehner stuck to his guns, favoring closing tax loopholes and capping deductions. to raising taxes. >> now, the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> so could we just agree right now, everybody around the table, that both sides are talking about tax increases for the rich? >> i think so. >> it's just a difference between do you get tax increases for the rich? do you get the revenue by raising the top rate or by closing loopholes? i mean, that is
raise tax revenue by not extending the current obama cut in payroll taxes. but the republican plan still refuses to raise the top income tax rates. yesterday, treasury secretary tim geithner made it clear that there can be no deal without higher top tax rates. >> last question, can you promise that we will not go over the cliff? >> no, i can't promise that. that's a decision that lies in the hands of the republicans that are now opposing increases in tax rates. if they recognize the reality that we can't afford to extend those tax rates, then we have a basis for the agreement and that's going to be the responsible thing to do and my judgment is they are going to do it. >> joining me now, ezra klein, huffington post, ryan grim. ezra, what do you make of the boehner proposal that was kind of cribbed from erskine bowles? >> two things. one, republicans are terrified about by the polls showing that they are going to immediately get blamed if they are not willing to compromise. the reason you initiate the bowles' plan is you say, look, they are going along with the former chief of staff said.
of getting the fiscal cliff deal done before everyone's taxes go up. >> consolation lunch? president obama visits mitt romney to the white house today and everyone is buzzing about it. could obama offer him a job? >> congratulations to someone. you just won the gdp of a small nation. not just one but two winning tickets in last night's record powerball drawing. we'll tell you where. >> and if they will be my best friend soon. we have a packed show. john ba, rasso, adam shif, rick warren, tom cole, connie and mary bono mack and steven holcomb. >> we have so many people coming up. it is thursday, november 2. "starting point" begins right now. >>> good morning, everyone. our starting point this morning, developments happening now in cairo. the u.s. embassy there is closed. no one is being allowed in or out as we speak. >> embassy officials say protesters are blocking the entrance and clashes are happening near nearby. reza sayah is nearby for us. what's happening? >> reporter: there is no indication protesters are targeting the u.s. em wibassy b it was closed as a precaution. these are protes
a year, enough to run the government for ve days. as president obama pushes for tax hikes on wealthier americans, he might look to britain to see the effect it has. it's not revenues. it's surprisingly less. after the labour par, that is, there, pushed for the top tax rate to 50%, 5-0, the richest ft. two-thirds left to avoid paying the new tax. it also stopped people coming to and investing in britain. there's a lesson for you. turns out the proof is in the pudding realizing the errors of the way, the government is cutting the top rate to 45%. more to ce like should washington sub di size wind energy? more on the fiscal cliff as americans on all levels have to prepare to take the tax hit. hope it doesn't, but i'm going to break it down next. ♪ gerri: i always like to give you the straight poop on everything, and, today, i'm concerned about the fiscal cliff. in the past two days, two very well-connected professional money managers have spoken to me about their trepidation their clients have about the expiration of the bush tax cuts and the cut backs on spending. money is worried, con
romney agreed with obama, that taxes on the high-income folks had to go up. so the challenge on the republican side, and it is tough, is folks like kevin mccarthy did get elected. and in his district, his no-tax pledge worked for him. these guys are in a very tough spot because they know at the end of the day they're going to have to raise these taxes. but doing so will cause an immense amount of political pain. that's why in my view, it's probably likely that we won't get a deal before january 1st. but on january 3rd, the senate sends a bill over. where now we're voting on a bill to lower taxes. the norquist pledge becomes irrelevant. in fact, they comply with the norquist pledge by voting for a bill that would provide tax relief for 98% of americans. so i just think this is a very difficult political situation on the republican side. you know, the speaker clearly knows that revenues have to go up. and he doesn't have the leverage now. and we're back into brinksmanship politics. but bottom line, the cliff is really much more a slope, and we can act on this ideally before jan
. president obama's first offer fiscal cliff, higher taxes, new spending and power over the debt spending. and offered by tim geithner who had tax problems in the past and today president obama is it at a toy factory campaigning for new taxes on the rich. and joining us is julia. >> hi. stuart: how are you. >> i'm great. stuart: i can't believe that you, as a regular american, want to do this to america, do you? >> i think it's because-- i don't think that this is exactly what what's going to happen. stuart: you don't think that the president will actually do this. >> no, no, i think the president has learned to negotiate. what the president would do, he would start with sort of half a loaf and negotiate and give the republicans about 75% of what they wanted. i think he's finally understood if you want to actually get to at least halfway, you have to start at extremes and meet halfway. republicans have done this all along. stuart: you agree with me, if this plan, anything like it from the president, were imposed on the economy at this time it would lead to recession. >> i think that the p
payment to get to a longer-range solution on entitlements and tax reform? >> there are a lot of options on the table, including that one. >> mr. speaker, before the election, you were asked whether if it obama won taxes would have to go up. and you sounded like you opposed that. now you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table. as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> right. so my question is, what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating division, and believe that it's inevitable that you'll have to accept some compromise on tax rates? >> the revenue is on the table. but revenue was only on the table if there were serious spending cuts as part of this agreement. it has to be part of the agreement. we have a debt crisis. we're spending too much. and while we're willing to put revenue on the table, we have to recognize, it's the spending that's out of control. >> mr. speaker. roughly what size spending cuts do you think it would take to reach a deal
, listen, from obama's opening offer, i was able to salvage the estate tax rates. i was able to salvage the dividends tax rates. i was able to shave off 400 to $500 billion in tax hikes that the president wanted. and on top of that, i was able to secure a promise to do comprehensive tax reform within a year. all from the president's first offer. wouldn't that be at least a little bit palatable to some of the republicans in the caucus? >> i think your word choice is perfect, a little bit palatablp. >> that's all they need. >> the attitude of let's make specific concessions now with regard for other concessions to come down the road, that player to be named later you hear about in trades. i think you're going to get enormous apt of skepticism in the house gop caucus to that. because they feel they've seen this movie before. when you were showing the footage of durbin and boehner, i thought it was footage from the debt ceiling argument. >> but isn't the better alternative which is to see all the tax cuts he e s expire? >> how will he pass the massive obama tax cut without the house? >> i'm
& company" got right. the obama team wants to raise tax now, promises of entitlement reform later and ignore the debt. that's the fiscal cliff deal of the day and the market likes it and the numbers are 5, 16, 22, 23, 29, and the powerball is 6. you lost. the government won. "varney & company" is about to begin. [ male announcer ] this is steve. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the marke he goes with people he trusts, . . >> . stuart: it's a modern day tea party. it's a revolt led by corporations. the wall street journal reports 173 companies announced they'll pay special dividends for shareholders before the end of the year because a big tax increase on dividends could be coming next year and many companies moving up regular dividends to save their taxpayers, to save taxpayers a lot of money. start with disney. it's raising its dividend and paying it out on december 28th. that's 1.3 billion dollars paid out in total, paid out under the current tax rate. and las vegas sands paying a special dividend, that's a o
from kentucky talk about how obama had raised her taxes. she has gone more tax breaks since obama was president -- she pays a lower rate than she did for the past 60 years. guest: in terms of the retroactive applica
obama offered up cuts in the -- cuts in the tax increases that helped bring the deficit in the first place but he's already clocked out around $2 trillion in spending cuts and interest decreases over the next ten years. now, as we know, the republicans have run and beaten the democrats on this idea that they're going to cut things, that they're going to find waste and eliminate it. well guys, now is your chance! step up to the microphone. what exactly are the cuts? it is funny. we're not hearing anything from these guys after they talked about it for so long. >> stephanie: exactly. that's what the white house is saying. the ball is in the republican's court. we're four weeks from the slope hill ramp. boehner -- republicans have a plan for providing as much as $800 billion in new government revenue over the next decade and we considered the elimination of tax deductions on high-income earners but when pressed for details, he declined to say. >> we've got a plan but i can't explain it to you because you wo
backwards not forward. if president obama is talking about taxing the wealthy. it doesn't get you there. the math doesn't add up. i doesn't get you out of the hole. but if they get that on december 22 and all he get he is has a seriouscliff on his hands. >> i want to play this. question to nancy pelosi. the minority leader in the house about spending cuts and what she is willing to do. >> the thing on the spending cuts -- the definite -- [ inaudible ] >> $1.5 trillion in cuts is a lot of money. we in washington, d.c. and we get used to big numbers but $1.5 trillion in cuts you go beyond that, you are talking hurting the growth of the infrastructure and education of our people and the pillar, the pillars of our economic strength. >> bret: that is a message, steve, we cut enough. yesterday, i should point out that senator reid meant to say $1 trillion. not one $1 billion on the sound bite we played to be fair to him. but nancy pelosi is clearly saying we're done. >> you see this in the comments that the democratic members of the house made to the public. big argue in politico, not refrenc
, they can't do something to bridge this in to a conversation next year. but when president obama says things through tim geithner that he said about raising tax rate and spend additional money, which is crazy, it makes people more concerned that a big overall grand bargain can't be reached next year. >> eric: martin, do you think a grand bargain won't be reached? >> i think it will. talk about what is going on now here first. you know, the president won the election. he campaigned on the basis of higher rates for the taxpayer income earners. no surprise. the republicans are asking shocked that the president is taking a tough line. i think they expect him to roll over and play dead. that is not the way things work in this town. he won the election. and he told the american people we were going to raise the rates on the top income earners. now that is what he is trying to do. i think there is some give here. i don't think it has to go up to 39.6. right now it's 35. maybe it goes up a point or two. listen, republicans need time to sort through all of this. there will be a short-term agreement.
, defending the top tax brackets, and is obama becoming the party of the middle class? >> absolutely. and larry, the reason the republicans are in this fix right now is because they think these discussions and negotiations are about deficit reduction. president obama thinks they're about fairness. most americans, solid majority, want to see taxes raised on those upper income americans, even though only 19% think it will have much of an impact on deficits. it's not about the fiscal crisis. it's about fairness in the minds of most americans. president obama understands that and republicans don't. >> is that because in your polling day, i always thought that people favored spending reduction and favored smaller government. this may be a mistake that the gop has not emphasized spending cuts. >> they certainly do. most people -- two out of three people want to see a deal that includes both tax hikes and spending cuts. they want to see more spending cuts, but they don't expect spending cuts to come out of this no matter what happens. in fact, the one thing that most people in the middle cl
in the top 2% tax rate. --wasn't ended the year deal it was an end-of-the-year deal. the obama administration was looking for the stimulus measure. they thought it would be hard for republicans to oppose a tax cuts. host: the money rigidly was going where -- the money originally was going where? guest: going to the social security trust >> we take you live now to the u.s. capitol and house speaker john boehner. >> the president has warned us about the dangers of going over the fiscal cliff. but his actions have not matched his public statements. momings of his own party seem quite comfortable on sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. two weeks ago we had a very productive conversation at the white house. based on where we stand today i would say two things. first, despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on t
beyond the tax date or just with those under $250,000 that president obama and democrats want. what is the best way to compromise for americans across the board? >> first you have to understand, that is politics as usual. even if the republicans gave in on this, on this 2% of the population getting taxed at a higher rate that basically pays for the budget deficit for three days. we are living with a $16 trillion deficit. so the republicans are going to have to compromise. democrats, white house, they have to come to a mutual agreement where an increase in taxes, a decrease in the amount of benefits that people receive, we need a real major compromise. we hope to god they do that zbleeh. >> heather: will they do it or not do. >> heather: will they do it? >> they no compromise. 50% chance they come to compromise that kicks the football into next year where the new congress will run with it. and possibly, 20% chance that nothing at all happens. we do think they will come up with some kind of temporary solution getting us through december 31. >> heather: we'll see what happens. >> gregg
people said on the left, including president obama when he was running for president the first time, the bush tax cuts only help the rich. they were only for the rich. now all of a sudden we're supposed to believe that he understands that they are actually going to hurt the middle class and the lower income people? because president bush cut taxes for everybody. finally now, i guess, history will get it right. that is actually what happened. president obama was on the wrong side of it then. definitely headed -- leading the country in a bad direction now. he had every reason to try to figure out a way to help the republicans, help get them to a deal so everyone could not have this anxiety leading up to the fiscal cliff. he is exacerbated the anxiety with the ridiculous plan. mitch mcconnell does not show emotion about anything ever. he has the best poker face. geithner's proposal must have been absurd that he laughed out loud would have been fan tast tic to see. >> andrea: there is a second stimulus. all spending and taxing. how would you feel if the republicans walked away? somethin
obama has been reelected, taxes are going to go up one way or another, are they going to go up for everybody or just for the wealthy and then we can get the american economy rolling again. i think the stock market is very smart about this. it realizes that all this is much adue about nothing, taxes are going to go up. if they reach adeal and that falls apart that, could send the stock market reeling, like it did in 2008 when everybody thought congress was going to do the t.a.r.p. bailout and didn't and then they came back and did it. >> we had the business roundtable yesterday where the boeing ceo in the introduction to the president said there's not a lot of wall flowers in this room. the president knew the crowd he was meeting with and talking to and the president saying i passionately rooting for all of your successes. >> on the one hand we all know that wall street supported mitt romney because he was one of them. on the other hand, this is exactly what the president should be doing, meeting with these business leaders, mending fences. now, a lot of those business leaders i
an urgent request about the alternative minimum task. he said failure to increase federal taxes for half of the people in his state. plus, treasury secretary tim geithner says the obama administration is, quote, absolutely ready to go over the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the rich. do you support that decision? it is our gut check. first, in today's money minute, here's a look at the markets. ♪ ♪ mom? dad? guys? [ engine turns over ] [ engine revs ] ♪ he'll be fine. [ male announcer ] more people are leaving bmw, mercedes and lexus for audi than ever before. take advantage of exceptional values during the season of audi event. ♪ you make me happy when skies are gray ♪ [ female announcer ] you know exactly what it takes to make them feel better. ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] that's why you choose children's tylenol. the same brand your mom trusted for you when you were young. ♪ how much i love you [ humming ] [ female announcer ] children's tylenol, the #1 brand of pain and fever relief recommended by pediatricians and used by moms decade after de
tom cole who broke ranks with republicans by embracing president obama's plan to raise taxes on the wealthy stuck to his guns this morning. >> if we can give the american people an early christmas present, if they can listen to the debate instead of be worried that their own taxes are going to go up, i think that actually strengthens our hand. i haven't changed my mind. i'm not going to come out here and be disingenuous to people. i think it would be a step in the right direction. >> today john boehner expressed disappointment at where the negotiations stand. as our first read team points out, by siding with the white house tom cole may be helping boehner get the deal he wants. joining me now, political editor mark murray. why do you think tom cole has strengthened the speaker's position, negotiating position he goes in with? >> it has given john boehner some cover. you now have a conservativconse albeit establishment member of the house republican party who is essentially going to the left of john boehner. of course, john boehner has basically said, look, i disagree with tom
. >>> this hour, president obama is on the ground in pennsylvania trying to build public support for his tax proposal. but that's just one part of the fiscal cliff debate. the other side of this, the massive spending cuts that have now educators ringing the alarm. they warn of increased class sizes, the elimination of after-school and summer school programs, libraries could close, all this as the u.s. tries to close an achievement gap. joining me now to continue our education nation conversation, world-renowned educator dr. steve perry, also host of tv one's "save my son." steve, it's great to have you here. the secretary of education, arne duncan, has said that 9 million students would be affected by the cuts including nearly 2 million that are already living in this country in poverty. when we talk about special education needs for the kids of our country, we're essentially about to take away resources from the students that need it most. however, we're not talking enough about that. >> one of the reasons why there's even a conversation about cuts is not so much because there's less money
the problems. good to have you both with us. thanks for joining us. seth, president obama's plan is advocating tax increases but almost no net spending cuts. how do you resolve this crisis without cutting spending significantly? >> well, i don't think that's true at all. there's substantial spending cuts. i mean, first of all, we've already cut spending by $1.5 trillion as part of the first part of this deficit reduction framework. also in his offer is another $400 billion in cuts, targeted cuts to health care programs. i really think that we shouldn't, like you said, take the knife to fundamental programs like medicare and social security. the president's plan is the plan he presented to the american people and won the election on. certainly, the plans they would cut or fundamentally restructure medicare, those proposals -- >> i don't think that's what we're talking about, seth. >> does that do anything to the debt? >> that's a great question, maria. that's the biggest challenge with this proposal that the president put out. he's actually talking about new spending. additional payroll benefit
it as well. >>> from there to washington, and new today president obama taking his message directly to the public amid the fierce fiscal cliff fight. after holding a campaign-like stop in pennsylvania friday, the president today is urging congress to extend middle class tax cuts in his weekly address. >> both parties say we should keep middle class taxes low. the senate's already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. if we can just get a few house republicans on board, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. >> the gop is also out today with new criticism of the president's plan. here's republican senator orrin hatch of utah. >> what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people. a tax increase double the size of what he campaigned on. billions of dollars in new stimulus spending. and an unlimited, unchecked authority to borrow from the chinese. maybe i missed it, but i don't recall him asking for any of that during the presidential campaign. >> j
owners with us today are here to highlight president obama's demand to raise tax rates instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that view that they should give into what the president is suggesting, at least temporarily, and continue to negotiate on the rest because there's a lot of political pain here for republicans if we do get to the point where we go over the cliff because of those higher tax rate pateryers, guys. >> all right, eamon. thank you. >> the talk continues, but none of it face to face. be sure to catch a live interview with on
including that one. >> mr. speaker, before the election you were asked whether if obama won, taxes would have to go up. you've made it sound like you would oppose that. now you've -- you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table. as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> right. so my question is, what -- what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating position and see that it's -- or believe that it's inevitable that you'll have to accept some compromise like the actual rates? >> revenue is on the table. but revenue was only on the table if there were serious spending cuts as part of this agreement. it has to be part of the agreement. we have a debt crisis. we're spending too much. and while we're willing to put revenue on the table, we have to recognize, it's the spending that's out of control. >> mr. speaker, roughly what size spending cuts do you think it would take to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, and do you think that at least the promise of sp
: okay. so president obama is also saying that he wants to raise taxes on families earning more than $250,000, but that move would only generate about $85 billion a year. that is a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of u.s. debt. and that number is about what the federal government spends in just eight days. so if he gets what he wants everybody over 250,000 pays more it's going to cover eight and a half days of the government spending amount and some would say the government spending problem. art laugher joins me now. architect of reagan tphopl i raeug reagannomics. in washington they have a lot of work to do. the question is whether or not the tax issue, whether or not the president has flexibility on that. whether we go back to the 39% or whether it would be less than that. are you seeing any light in that discussion? >> if he's willing to negotiate about the highest rates i take that as a wonderful, wonderful sign. you know, first place, even if they raise the rates they are never going to get the money. these people know how to get around paying taxes. they hire lawyers, acco
are almost nowhere. >> chris: president obama accusing republicans of being willing to raise taxes on 98% of americans, while speaker boehner says it is the president who is unwilling to compromise. and it is time for our sunday group, bill kristol of the weekly standard. mara liasson of national public radio, republican strategist ed rollins and former democratic senator evan byah. you heard for the last half-hour, tim geithner and john boehner, each say they are being reasonable and it is the other side's fault. bill you have been through your share of washington negotiations. what strikes you about what you heard today? >> geithner is in a stronger position, in the respect. the president is net and high can maneuver and say, $1.6 trillion and, they say, $1.1 trillion and speaker beginner has 235 members, and they don't hop to it when he decides to move, he's in a much tougher position structurally and we have seen the history of the show downs, the white house usually wins, and, the main reason why is, he is a unitary executive and, the majority party in congress is in a weaker positi
people. >> did you see this, obama is flexible on highest tax rates. >> administration official. white house officials later signaled that. he didn't signal it in anything he said. >> i spoke to a couple who were at the meeting yesterday, some of the executives, who felt, and this is like the implied feeling that he was now more willing to deal on the highest rate. >> did you hear anything about spending cuts or entitlement reform? >> two conversations are taking place. one if the public trying to get them behind you. the other is whether you're actually saying to the people you're negotiating with. and when you saw the signal, it was like, okay, maybe they'll get to that, i don't know, 37% or 500,000 or something. what we had been talking about two weeks ago. maybe that's where they're headed. stocks did gain ground on optimism around the idea that we could reach some sort of a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. the dow closing more than 100 points higher after being down by more than that during the session. a swing like that hasn't happened since october 2011. u.s. equity futures at th
nothing to offer besides the same tax cut mantra and demonization of obama that won't work anymore. >> we all remember mr. romney's explanation for why he lost. you know, you can't beat free stuff was his excuse in a nutshell. mr. stevens was asked about those comments this morning. take a listen, bob. >> we have the governor speaking about the fact that the obama campaign paid its voters and certainly its lower income voters. that seems to me a bit sour grapes. >> i don't think that's what he was saying. they had certain groups they wanted to do well with, and they did well with. >> but where is theed a admissi from mr. romney or mr. stevens or republican that they many a nasty, mean-spirited campaign that deserved the thumping it received? >> you're not going to get that and, you know, i have met stuart. he's not a friend of mine, but you read the piece he wrote in "the washington post," you listen to what he said, you say no wonder romney make. the arguments he's making are fantasy and they're pernicious. he says crazy things like no one in washington, in the washington green room, eve
. >> president obama accusing republicans ever being willing to raise taxes on 98% of americans, while speaker boehner said it's the president when is unwilling to compromise. it's time now for our sunday group. bill crystal of the weekly standard. marcha liason and ed rollins and former democratic senator that you heard. >> each of them are saying they are being reasonable and it's the other side's fault. you have been through your share of washington negotiations. what strikes you about what you heard today? >> i think they both made their case well but i think geithner is in a stronger position in this respect. the president is the president. he can maneuver, he can say my $1.6 trillion and he can say $1.2 trillion. speaker boehner has 135 members. they don't hop to it when he decides to move. he's in a tougher position structurally. in these show downs the white house usually wins and the main reason they win is it's a unitary executive. and congress is in a weaker position. >> all right. >> what happened this week is interesting. both sides are putting out their maximalist position and te
taxes to that. tea party 2 will dwarf tea party 1 if obama pushes us off the cliff. >> so basically what grover nor 0 quist is saying there to the members of the tea party who were elected, have been elected, we'll take everybody who is against us into a primary on the right on the republican side. >> right. >> and so the threat has been issued already. >> that was the point. >> this is like political terrorism. >> well, it's certainly a clear bargaining position. i remember talking to a longtime member of the house running for the senate we were talking about something else, and i said is it worse than when you came in, which was in the late '80s? and he said the central difference is in the caucus, the republican kcaucus. the fear is not a democratic challenge, it's a primary challenge. it's the first time i heard the verb to be primaried. you can ask senator lugar about this. it's real. it's becoming increasingly difficult to cast one or two compromise votes even early on because of this he cecho chambe that kicks in and, to me, what's so scary about it is the president's second term
to indulge in junk food. the president will tax junk food to get americans healthier. >> obama is known for her fight against childhood obesity. >> 'tis the season to start hiring. reports showing that seasonal hiring is at the highest level in five years. cheryl casone is here with three of the companies hiring seasonal workers right now. short term job if you want to bring in extra cash. >> that is the thought process going in when you take one of these jobs. 25,000 seasonal workers are going to be highered this year. you are correct five years. best number we have seen in five years. why is that? >> the economy is getting a little better. cyber monday was a new record. the big et cyber monday on record. they are beginning to open up their wallets. they are saving their cash for years now spending. >> or using credit cards a lot. let's get to the companies. >> ups you know this one. the global package delivery company. there are several things you can do and they are hiring through december 8th. they have 55,000 seasonal jobs available. 525 million packages will be shipped between now
. geithner will lunch with mitch mcconnell and then house minority leader nancy pelosi. president obama is signaling he's flexible on on where tax rates should go for the wealthiest americans. a return to the clinton era tax rates would have households pay between 36% to 39%. the president met with a group of 14 ceos wednesday afternoon. they offered support for resolving the if i can crisis with a proposal for higher taxes for those who make more than a quarter million dollars a year. sdl bo >> both sides have acknowledged that there will be revenue concessions and sbilgtment cent concessio concessions. i'm not a master of the political art here, but i would say if you have these point of views in a business context as close as they are, i would say a deal would be in reach. >> ford chairman bill ford junior agrees with blankfein saying he's confident the obama administration can reach a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. but speaking with reporters in bangkok, he says the automaker is prepared for any outcome. cnbc has learned the completion of the so-called volcker rule is
.c. the obama administration draws a line in the sand over tax hikes. the two sides now seem further apart than ever before. and we have less than a month to go. >>> soledad, a flood of trouble in the west. widespread destruction as storms pound already soggy parts of northern california. >> lots to talk about this morning. we'll have joe linta, the agent for kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher. also talking to florida republican congressman connie mack. california republican mary bono mack will join us as well. also, carlos gutierrez. former giants runningback tiki barber is with us in the studio. it's monday, december 3rd, and "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. our team joining us around the table. barbara starr, cnn's pentagon correspondent. we were talking this morning, it has been literally four years since we've seen each other in person. >> last time i saw you was inauguration day. >> we talk all the time. in person, four years. kamau bell is a median. new york congresswoman nan hayworth. alina cho sticking around to help us, too. starting point is the search
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